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With the ban setting to expire, I wanted to hear what your plans were for purchases. I'm thinking of picking something up, not sure what yet. I was thinking an AR15 simply because I have about 8 30 round magazines from my infantry days. #1 will they fit in an AR15 (never seen/shot one).
Any other purchase suggestions?
Geesh, how much do these cost anyway?
Need advice.
That's government property, son.Quote:
Originally Posted by [AK]Choozoo
did I say infantry? I meant I found them on the thruway... sorry
LOL - If you said the NJ Thruway, it would be more believable. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [AK]Choozoo
I know there are enthusiasts here. Seriously, what is your plan?
FNC 5.56mm Fully auto.
MP-5 10mm Fully auto. with riot gear and tac scope.
I'm going to cut a chainsaw slot in the side of my SUV.
Just in case.
Contrary to popular opinion, machine guns have pretty much been banned since the 1939 Firearms Act.Quote:
Originally Posted by [AK]StitchJones
Fully automatic weapons weren't affected by the 1994 "Assault Weapons" ban. They were always under the purview of the 1939 firearms act and can be purchased in a state where they are legal with the payment of the appropriate ATF transfer tax and background check. Incidentally, a crime has NEVER been committed with a registered machine gun. The reason is that, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Therefore, no criminal is going to legally acquire a full auto weapon.
The Clinton "assault weapons" ban only affected cosmetic changes to existing designs, like pistol grip stocks on rifles and shotguns, screw-on flash suppressors, and collapsible stocks. It's been many years since I had a FFL, but I seem to remember that they had a "hit-list" of undesirable features where, if the weapon wasn't specifically among the 19 banned, if it had three features it was illegal. They also added sexy-for-the-press-but-ridiculous items like bayonet lugs and grenade launchers.
The whole thing was basically a feel-good ban on ugly weapons. The biggest thing I saw was a reduction in magazine capacity and largely eliminating folding stocks. It also had the positive effect of eliminating drive-by bayonettings in this country.
The Democrats demonize the NRA as if they're another ugly lobbying group financed by big business, but the fact is that they have six million members who vote and give money. There's a reason the two biggest lobbying organizations are the AARP and the NRA; there's no substitute for direct votes from a pissed-off constituency. In the last election, the Democrats lost 14 seats in the house and had the first sitting Speaker (Tom Foley, D-Spokane) ousted since the mid-1800's, largely because of the NRA. The Democrats claim to have learned their lesson and are singing a different tune this time around. I'm interested to see how long their memory lasts after November 5th. Incidentally, George W. publicly claims to support the renewal of the law simply because he knows that there isn't enough support in the House for it to ever come to the floor, which is in-your-face hypocrisy.
The irony is that FBI data has always shown that criminals don't use "assault weapons" in the commission of most crimes. They're not easily concealable and are generally too expensive for your average street thug. The images from the movies of machine-gun-toting drug dealers is pure Hollywood myth.
If you look at the websites of various manufacturers, you'd have seen a variety of weapons that didn't look substantially different than before the ban. Mainly you'd have seen no folding stocks or faux-collapsible stocks pinned in place. The threaded flash suppressors have been supplanted with pinned "recoil compensators." Somehow those dumb-ass thumbhole stocks seem to have been eliminated early in the ban through some sort of court ruling.
Anyway, back to the guns:
I'm planning on picking up an Armalite AR-10 for target shooting. It's basically an AR-15 chambered for .308. There are numerous AR-15 type manufacturers out there, but Eugene Stoner at Armalite invented the AR-15 (and thus the M-16) and I want to stick with the original.
The other things I'm thinking of are a high-capacity Benelli Super 90. I use a shotgun for home defense and it really chapped my ass that a seven-round tube made it into an "assault weapon."
Because my ass has been so chapped over this legislation, I'm also thinking of a Street Sweeper just because they're cool. Realistically, I probably won't get one...but I prefer to have the option.
Either way, I'm interested to see what happens after November 5th and, if the Democrats gain a majority in Congress, to see how long their memory is of the last time they got their asses kicked by the NRA.
I'm looking at a matched pair of MK38 25mm SeaSnake machine guns. I think of got enough space under the hood and near the engine mounts to fit these bad boys into my 1990 Volvo 240dl. I'm still working on the mechanism that will have them pop up from the hood and auto-track multiple targets but I think I can solve this with a little seed money.
We used these puppies in the Coast Guard and boy, with the depleted uranium-tipped rounds, they did awesome damage to a styrofoam ice chest we found floating in the ocean one afternoon. :uzi:
http://www.milius.navy.mil/Departmen...-Chain-Gun.jpg
I want to thank Sonic for his serious post. It is appreciated.
I'll be securing me an AR15. Figure it will be good for picking off rabbits running through the back yard. And, I'll be able to do it up to distances included 800 yards under any wind conditions.
Hmm, thats an idea.. We could have RL I'76 soon.. :D ;) :lol2:
I'm serious, if were talking about rifles those are the two I really want. If I could only get Semi, I'd be fine with that.
Now on the Chainsaw on the side of the SUV. I'm with Squidly 200% on that one!
On a serious note, if the ban is lifted it'd make no difference in the gun(s) I'd want to purchase.