Um, golf is not a sport. ;p But it has a ball and you knock it around. Same goes for cricket. Sorry to bust up the logic there. :)
Zo
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Um, golf is not a sport. ;p But it has a ball and you knock it around. Same goes for cricket. Sorry to bust up the logic there. :)
Zo
Like I said...exceptions.
Understood. There are exceptions.
I do take serious issue with those who don't take auto racing seriously as a "sport."
I was about to launch into a lengthy diatribe about its requirements to qualify as a sport. Then I realized that auto racing doesn't need anyone's blessing.
It occurred to me that, in the same way that no one will ever agree about politics, this thread is equally as futile.
I leave you with this:
To play football, baseball, basketball, or soccer, it takes one ball. To race cars, it takes two. No one ever died fumbling the rock or fanning out.
To those who think that flying into turn one at Indy at 240 mph and taking it flat-on-the-floor and surviving...for 500 miles, lap after lap, side by side, when you're dead-ass-tired and it's hotter than hell and any mistake can cost you your life, isn't as worthy as playing a ball game, I say this:
I disagree.
Now go play your stick-and-ball games.
Well said, Sonic.
Zo
Ah, guys, I realize that I was bringing up a hot topic about football, but I really did not want to start another bad thread.....
And this is what happens when I step out of the foxhole to drink some Java with my buddies.... sheesh..... :rolleyes:
Do you think I would be doing the right thing by starting a thread on cross stitching???
"Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--
Amen.
I can attest to Mountain Climbing being a sport.
http://home.nycap.rr.com/wantuch/Brian_on_Cornell.jpg
Can't vouch for the others (yet!) :)
"Go play your stick and ball games"
This from an avid Seahawk fan... lol... :)
The requirement of courage or the risk of danger do not make something a sport.
If it did, the NASA spaceshuttle launches would be considered a sport.
I personally exclude auto racing because of the technology element.
You've got guys tweaking tires and stuff in the pits to obtain an hardware
advantage. But whatevah. It's just labels.
That's not mountain climbing.Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
I can attest to Mountain Climbing being a sport.
http://home.nycap.rr.com/wantuch/Brian_on_Cornell.jpg
THIS:
http://classic.mountainzone.com/clim...northridge.jpg
...is mountain climbing.
No problem. :)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Squidly
"Go play your stick and ball games"
This from an avid Seahawk fan... lol... :)
The requirement of courage or the risk of danger do not make something a sport.
If it did, the NASA spaceshuttle launches would be considered a sport.
I personally exclude auto racing because of the technology element.
You've got guys tweaking tires and stuff in the pits to obtain an hardware
advantage. But whatevah. It's just labels.
I tend to equate sports with things that take physical talent to perform and extraordinary physical talent to perform extraordinarily. Anyone who thinks racing an automobile well doesn't take talent hasn't done it and just doesn't understand.
Do you argue that the dude with the best car doesn't start with an advantage?
Hey - I have to start somewhere! :)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Squidly
That's not mountain climbing.
THIS: ...is mountain climbing.
Of course I wouldn't argue that.Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Squidly
Do you argue that the dude with the best car doesn't start with an advantage?
However, everybody plays by the same set of rules so the cars tend to even themselves out among the teams that can afford the best equipment.
Now that I think of it, that's pretty much the same thing as with stick-and-ball sports, except the top teams buy the best players instead of the best motors.
A better analogy would be a baseball team using aluminum bats while another uses wood.
I absolutely don't understand your analogy, nor do I agree with it.
Everybody races with the same rulebook. If you don't have the money to field a top car, then you should be in a cheaper class of racing. The playing field is level. End of story.
Road racing formula cars and winning races on a national level is the most difficult and fulfilling thing I've ever done. You don't think racing is a sport. I do, because I've done it.
Like I said in the beginning, no one is going to convince anyone of anything. The discussion was, and still is, futile.
EOS.