Anyone have one? One thing I don't like about it is you have to go through iTunes to transfer music to it. Is there a way you can treat it like a hard drive and just transfer your mp3's direct to it?
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Anyone have one? One thing I don't like about it is you have to go through iTunes to transfer music to it. Is there a way you can treat it like a hard drive and just transfer your mp3's direct to it?
No, you'll need to use iTunes. In my experience that's a huge benefit rather than a negative. Spend a month using iTunes and you probably will wonder why you ever resisted.
I own an iPhone, and my father-in-law owns an iPod "Touch". While we both are very happy, the best is yet to come. The SDK is in beta now, and in June developers will be coming out with a boatload of applications (downloadable directly to the devices via wireless.) You won't be disappointed with the purchase.
Clay, while the I-Touch is plugged into your PC, it will show as a mounted drive where you can use that free space to store various files, if you so need too. This of course also holds true while plugged into a Mac. However these files will not show while using the Itunes application. Other then the status bar at the bottom saying 'Other Data' So for Movies/TV/Music/Photos/Podcasts, you'll need to use the Itunes to manage and deal with that data. From windows explorer you can toss your documents, spreadsheets, onto the device.
Enjoy!
to one-off since we are on the subject. To convert your own movies to be played on the I-Touch is as easy as downloading "Handbrake". There is a Win32 and OS X version. The conversion quality and performance is awesome for a freeware program.
While you may be able to transfer the mp3 files to the iTouch, you'll need to load them through iTunes to play them.
Double files! What better way to eat up space!
Clay I finally gave in a few weeks ago and got me one of these. I hate to say it but Squids right. After a few days of playing around with Itunes its become my new favorite tool in the shed. Give it a whirl, you WONT be disappointed!
I switched to iTunes from WinAMP about three years ago and never looked back.
As I was telling Bribo earlier on the phone, you need to get used to the "Apple Paradigm" for dealing with organizing your music. On the PC many of us have intricate playlist and hugely complicated folder structures. All of that goes away.
People panic when they're told that iTunes lumps everything in one folder by default. Thing is, the software lifts the load of organization from your shoulders. It doesn't MATTER where it is on the disk, so long as you can find it in a flash. And that's what iTunes does so well.
It did take a little time to organize the new play lists and such but nowhere near the time I've invested over the years doing it on my PC. I've always been anti apple but I tell ya the more and more I look their stuff the more and more I love it. Microsoft has catered to the PC illiterate too long and took the fun out out using my PC for anything but gaming. My Ipod is the best investment I've made this year by far.
okay, this thread has peaked my interest. So let me understand correctly (I'm a Winamp User and run it on my media PC to stream music from an external 1tb drive to my stereo).
I can install ITunes to organize my music, handle things like cover-art and ID4 tags. It won't convert any of my mp3 (I don't have an IPod, I like my Nomad)? But I will have to create new playlists, right?
Also, will it handle syncing to non Ipod mp3 players or will I have to use my own client?
edit:
Some bloatware comes FREE with Itunes, eh? AppleMobileDeviceService.exe, gee, maybe you should ask before you install a service for devices that I don't have.
ITuneHelper.exe. 15mb of RAM is being used before I even launch the application. Good so far.
I started to read Nuts post,,, then all of a sudden I went into a Beavis and Butthead coma...."Words......words.....words....." lol
Nuts, Itunes is for playing music and such locallly or with Ipod hardware. Non Ipod devices will not be recognized by the program.
ITunes will allow you to convert CD's into a few different formats. Including MP3's. It will download album art and bind it to the songs/album. As far as .PLS or .M3U playlists, it does not create those. But inside of Itunes you can create your own in program playlists. After you mess around with it a little it's amazing how well integrated everything is. And the Bloatware or Apple's version of self plug and play can be disabled to make your life easier if your paranoid about how many running services you have on your machine. It's not like it's the first time you've typed Service.msc from the run line ;-)
I've got it running here on my work PC. Where the hell is my Right-Click options?? Ya, Ya... it's Apple, I know.
Seems okay so far and rather simple to use. Hence, this may work out better for the wife on our media PC downstairs on the big screen.
It's a shame that they don't integrate well with other mp3 devices like my Nomad, but oh well.
I've turned off some of the services that are wastefull and it was rather quick at indexing my 18gb of music and collecting cover art.
Nuts, could you post which specific services you turned off that are unnecessary but were forced upon you by iTunes?
I note iTunes installed Quicktime media player. My last experience with Quicktime was a few years ago, and I found it was an intrusive and horrid little program. I use the codec in windows media player to play quicktime files instead. I want it Quicktime gone - can I remove it without removing iTunes?
Yes, you can remove quicktime, but I question that decision.
Give the new version a shot. Why remove it if it's working fine now?
I keep my PC's running pretty bare so I already had most of the quicktime things turned off.
I disabled the service: "Ipod Service"
In the program I disabled:
"Look for remote speakers connect with AirTunes"
"Show iTunes icon in system tray"
Podcasts / "Check for new episodes=Manually"
"Check for updates automatically"
"Look for Apple TV's"
"Disable automatic syncing for all iPhones and iPods"
I had to kill the process "AppleMobileDeviceService.exe" but I couldn't find the .exe anywhere so I'll have to play with that one.
I hate software that wants to automate connectivity and synchronization. These usually result in process, services and TCP connection (either to localhost or to external sites)
Oh my biggest complaint with the original is that it embedded itself in my browser and screwed up some things from working right, and would randomly start playing and doing strange things it seemed. This was a number of years ago, so perhaps it's smoother now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [AK]Squidly
My second biggest issue is resources. My approach to PC operations is that programs should NOT auto load when I boot up my machine and should NOT be resident in memory unless specifically called upon. Resources are limited, why waste them on something I'm not using? I see now that there's a little QuickTime icon on the bottom of my PC screen when I boot up - which oft means such is preloaded into memory. This slows down my computer and slow computers make the Panda sad. If I can play the media via Windows Media player which I have already, why have two?
Nonetheless, if removing quicktime screws up my iTunes functionality, and iTunes really is all that as folks are saying, perhaps I should give it a shot for a few days ;)
I have a couple of .bat files that are full of net stop and start commands.
I have a standard one that turns off everything I don't regularly need like messenger and print spooling... I just don't need them on a daily basis
I have one that turns back on all the defaults (good for troubleshooting a problem)
I have another for gaming... it turns off damn near everything I can get away with... bare bones here. And of course one to flick those back on.
Like clay, I watch my resources as I do notice an improvement in performance when I can shave off 64mb of RAM usage.
I use Quicktime alot... in fact, I have the Pro version so I can download and save alot of videos.
I gave up the fight for "services" a long time ago. Ever since I went to 2gigs of RAM, I've never really had a problem with resources. Yeah, I shut down some things If I'm playing a game online that is a graphics heavy beast, etc... but even now I often leave Trillian and even Yahoo Widgets running in the background and never had any issues or noticed any significant difference at all in FPS.
Once I got rid of Norton and switched to AVG a few years ago... most all of my service problems went away.
LoL, "sad panda"
Listening to you guys go on about services and eliminating arcane file references from the registry makes me happier than ever that I am no longer on that platform.
Of course as bad as it is it can't touch the bad old days before plug and play actually worked. IRQ conflict! Joy!
ARGH!! "Recess that memory, recess that memory".Quote:
Originally Posted by [AK]Squidly
My old early 3D Rendition Cards! Before 3dfx even. Playing PCI hopping with devices to get Windows95 to play nice with IRQs. Oh the pain.....
Nuts, Squidly makes a very good point. You need to do 200+ things in windows to feel warm and fuzzy about being safe. With Mac you start secure and stay secure :-) It's a pretty darn good feeling.
ugghh... IRQ's suck.
I have several computers that I use to download music and would like to use them all to put stuff on the itouch.
When I try it tells me that it is synced to another library and I have to wipe the itouch to add stuff with this directory.
I don't want to wipe the itouch I just want to add this and that.
I want it to recognize all of the computers and let me put the 3 or 4 things I want on the itouch. From whatever computer I am on.
How do I do that?
Do I need some kind of hack ?
I don't see it is a drive on my computer right now maybe I need some other less structured program.
Set up Itunes to manually manage your music instead of automatically syncing your library and all should be well.
*edit*
Heres the link to an article to help you along
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61675
Thanks Brorlis!
Unfortunately I got so frustrated with itunes before I read this that I now have winamp on my computer and am running ml-ipod to get it to sinc up, it works pretty well. Still trying to perfect going from itouch to the computer but it definitely now gets to my itouch without asking it to sinc and wipe everything.
Maybe I will go back and give itunes another chance if this one fails me :)
Sigh all this for some yoga podcasts.
Yikes... Winamp with the Ipod ? I certainly hope that you give it another try because itunes was the one thing that drew me to an ipod vs. any other mp3 player. Its new to you. Spend a few days with it and you'll never go back!
I gotta admit I am totally enamoured with the itouch.
I love it!
I blame Rocks for suggesting I get one.
All I have to do now is figure out what apps I want on it.
Anyone have some favorites?
If you're quick:
http://www.woot.com/
$290 for a 16 GB iTouch is a Hell of a price.
Aye. I missed it. :(
OK, now I'm annoyed at Apple. They want me to pay $10 for the updated software for the iTouch.
I've been holding off jailbreaking it, since I thought the 2.0 software would give me everything I wanted. Now I'm irritated. Has anyone jailbreaked their iTouch yet?
Jailbreaking is ridiculous.
And don't get annoyed at Apple. Get annoyed at Sarbanes Oxley accounting requirements. Apple has to charge something for upgrades that significantly change the behavior of a product. The Touch gets credited to Apple's books immediately in one lump sum. The iPhone is spread over 2 years, and so is exempt from a software upgrade cost.
And for crying out loud, it's only 10 bucks. You'll spend more than that in 5 minutes in the APP store, and be thrilled doing it.
More on the fee charged for upgrades altering existing behavior.