Some dude's gun list.
An entertaining read.
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Some dude's gun list.
An entertaining read.
Also, here's a page dedicated to the PPSH, that "Cool Russian Gun"
PPSH
The PPSh-41 is amazingly cool. You can't beat the 71 round clip. I'm wondering if the fin design along the barrel is purely aesthetic or if it acts like a radiator to keep the barrel cool. I think it's my favorite gun in CoD.
Speaking of guns, that new Japanese assault rifle in the BF1942 1.5 patch kicks ass! Great rate of fire. Nice stability and packs a good punch.
I wouldn't know, since I was only on the receiving end of that Jap gun.
I'd like to get a PPSH some day...even if it was only semi-automatic. That and a Thompson...
You should have done what I did. Grab one off of the first dead Jap you saw! :)
A gun collection would be nice. I can see them now in a nice rack between the pool table and the arcade! :)
It's amazing that they let you have guns at all in the liberal-gun-hating Northeast... ;)
Unfortunately, I went through some tough financial times about eight years ago and sold off my coolest stuff. The guys I sold 'em to still have most of 'em but, alas, it's all now too expensive to buy 'em back.
They probably have better homes now anyway. I live in the middle of the city now and only shoot handguns about twice a year.
(Sigh.)
I do miss the old days when I had a rifle range 10 minutes from my office and would blow off work in the morning to go punch paper by myself in the middle of winter.
There's a heluva lot that I don't miss about those days, though...
We've mostly got shotguns and deer rifles and stuff... it's all up at my parent's house in Northern NY, and we pull 'em out when we go hunting.
My brother has a couple of pistols. His Ruger Super Redhawk .480 is a hoot. The thing makes Dirty Harry's gun look like a water pistol. I've got a video of me shooting it. I let off a shot and look back at the camera incredulously as the thing rips a quarter-sized hole through a cast-iron frying pan.
We're going to be shooting them during Thanksgiving... I'll take some photos and post 'em here for the interested few.
Bribo -- it's a cooling design, and maybe a gas diffuser. That barrel has to get awfully hot that that ROF.
The buddy that I typically go shooting with must be going through some sort of midlife crisis or something. In the last year and a half he's bought a .50 cal Desert Eagle, an UZI, an AR-15, and a Sig 229, among other things.
I've told him that everything but the Sig is basically useless, but it is fun to go out and blow stuff up with him. The Desert Eagle certainly takes some getting used to... and it does a helluva job on watermelons.
I can only lament that I wasn't able to talk him into blowing all that money on rebreather equipment...
Sigh .... my arsenal is greatly reduced. I sold my M1 Garand and Model 1917 rifles to buy wedding rings. Right now, I have a stainless Beretta 92 FS, a CZ-52 pistol, a Winchester Model 12 shotgun, and the wife's S&W .357 snubby.
I bought a squirt gun, but my garden hose does the trick....
no weapons in the house for me. :(
God I love you Texas boys. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Abaddon
Sigh .... my arsenal is greatly reduced. I sold my M1 Garand and Model 1917 rifles to buy wedding rings. Right now, I have a stainless Beretta 92 FS, a CZ-52 pistol, a Winchester Model 12 shotgun, and the wife's S&W .357 snubby.
I had asked Squidly the other day if he owned any guns and I see many of you do. My wife and I have discussed getting guns in the past but never have. We are not hunters, but have absolutely nothing against it. I know its a necessity for population control - I just don't find sitting in a tree stand at 4:30AM in 15 degree weather freezing my nads off as entertaining. :D Staying in a hotel without room service is "roughing it"!! ;)
You remember that gun club in Beverly Hills Cop 2 (I think it was)?? I want to join one of those, not one of the Rod & Gun type clubs. :beer: But, I've only shot a few guns in my life. A couple of hunting rifles and a glock. I don't think my wife has ever fired a weapon before.
So, my question is this. What is the best way to get 'started'? Take gun safety courses and then join a shooting club / range?? I also read a few websites with a glossary explaining how Gauge is determined, caliber measurements, different types of firing mechanisms, etc. How Stuff Works is quite useful! ;)
Thanks in advance for any info.
When was the last time you actually hunted? 1985? :)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Squidly
We've mostly got shotguns and deer rifles and stuff... it's all up at my parent's house in Northern NY, and we pull 'em out when we go hunting.
If you live in the city, then I would say that's probably a pretty good way of doing it. If you're just starting out, I would resist the temptation of going with too large a caliber. It takes the same skill to shoot a .22 well as it does to shoot anything bigger. Once you can shoot the small stuff well, the big stuff is a piece of cake.Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Hylander
So, my question is this. What is the best way to get 'started'? Take gun safety courses and then join a shooting club / range??
If you're thinking of home defense, I'd recommend a shotgun. Much easier to aim then a handgun. For your significant other or even yourself, I'd recommend a .410 bore shotgun. Rednecks might poo-poo it, but the fact of the matter is that a .410 has significantly more muzzle energy than a .44 magnum handgun.
Good luck, be safe, and have fun. I'm always in favor of helping to remove the redneck stigma from shooting sports.
Looking at my hunting license here....1997, although it was nothing more than taking a gun for a walk in the woods (didn't see anything.)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
When was the last time you actually hunted? 1985? :)
You?
I don't claim to be the great white hunter. :)
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Hylander,
I would check out the NRA's site and find if there is an NRA-affiliated range or gun club in your area. That's one way to get hooked up with some people who practice responsible gun ownership.
As for a first gun ... I can offer a few inexpensive suggestions.
.22 cal. - You absolutely cannot beat the old Ruger MK whatever .22 pistols. They come in various flavors and cost ranges (starting around $200 new). Great for target plinking.
9 mm - I would advise a 9mm if you are looking at a pistol for self-defense and for the range. There are many fine, reliable guns out there in 9 mm. I have a bias toward guns that actually have a switchable safety and an external hammer, so I have had a Beretta 92 FS, a CZ-75 and a Ruger P-89 in 9mm. The Ruger has a deplorable trigger pull, so don't get one of those.
I highly recommend the CZ-75. They are a very nice Czechoslovakian pistol, and are available at gun shows for around $350. This is a double-action pistol, for which hi-capacity (15-round) mags are available, but expensive. ($50+)
If you have a little more cash, there's always the Beretta 92 FS (my current gun). These start around $375-$400 for a new blued model and go up to $500+ for a stainless one. Hi-capacity mags are readily available at gun shows for under $50 each. The 92 FS is basically the same pistol currently issued to U.S. troops.
If you are going economy on a 9 mm, you can get a CZ-52, an older, single-action CZ Pistol, that has been rebarreled in 9 mm. This will cost less than $200, but only has an 8-round magazine. I have one of these in the original 7.62X25 caliber and it is a very reliable gun. (The original caliber is hotter than 9mm, so the conversion is COMPLETELY safe).
My main reasons for recommending those three guns in 9 mm are:
50 rounds of 9mm will cost you around $5 to $6 for practice ammo at Academy, compared to $9 to $14 per box of 50 for .40 cal. or .45 cal. It therefore offers a good balance between cost and functionality. For self-defense, you would keep the gun loaded with Federal Hydra-shoks or comparable hollowpoints.
For the CZ-75 and the Beretta, there are legal full-capacity magazines available, at a reasonable price. For many of the newer guns like the Walther P-99, (or anything chambered in .357 Sig) the only full-capacity mags available are tagged as "police only." For others, like the Sig-Sauers or HKs, the full-capacity non-police mags cost $75 and up each.
Anyway, that was a lengthy rant. If you have any specific questions about a type of pistol, fire away (so to speak). About the only thing I have never owned is a Glock. They have all the aesthetic appeal of a pipe-wrench, but are reliable tools for law enforcement.
I have never liked shotguns, because I enjoy using guns for target practice. I like to have that neatly perforated paper target to check out ... and skeet never did it for me. However, for home defense, a shotgun is a practical choice. With the right ammo, wall penetration is limited, and there is less chance of accidentally hurting one of your loved ones while turning a home intruder into a "good" burglar. Good hollowpoint ammo in pistols also does not penetrate walls, for the most part.
Above all else, be prepared for the responsibility of owning guns before you buy one. I keep most of mine locked away in a safe in my house (you can find a small gun safe for $50-$60).
Who did?Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
I don't claim to be the great white hunter. :)
If you just used your shotgun on someone in your house, I'de say new walls are about the least of you problems. I can't see any type of slug that wouldn't compleatly blow through 2 sheets of 1/4 inch drywall, and not destroy anything on the other side.Quote:
However, for home defense, a shotgun is a practical choice. With the right ammo, wall penetration is limited
I could be wrong, I don't know anything about bullets.
A small gauge shotgun, like a .410 or even a 20-gauge, will have limited wall penetration with birdshot. A little bit of wood and plaster will stop most of the shot. .00 buckshot would be bad, as would standard slugs. However, a pistol, with full-metal-jacket bullets, is far more risky in terms of wall penetration.
And I'm not writing about this because of wall damage. I'm writing about it because of the precious lives (friends, family, neighbors and other non-criminals) that might be on the other side of the wall in question.
A faceful of birdshot would serve as an adequate deterent to most home invaders, I'll wager.
Besides, you could finish them off with the butt of the gun - Platoon Bunny Style. ;)
If you have 1/4 drywall in your house you got ripped my friend. The other advantage of a shotgun is if your wife has to shoot it, all she has to do is aim in the general direction no marksmanship required, unless you opt for slugs over shot.Quote:
I can't see any type of slug that wouldn't compleatly blow through 2 sheets of 1/4 inch drywall
And this is an advantage to the husband how?? :DQuote:
Originally posted by [AK]Gunny Highway
The other advantage of a shotgun is if your wife has to shoot it, all she has to do is aim in the general direction no marksmanship required
Just to let you all know, I don't have any guns, and personally think all hand guns and automatic rifles should be outlawed. If you want to go hunting thats fine, bring your single cartridge loading rifle or your bow and arrow or something. I imaging that won't go over very well with most of you.
Whatever floats your boat. No need to bring politics into this discussion.
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Originally posted by [AK]Pixelsponge
Just to let you all know, I don't have any guns, and personally think all hand guns and automatic rifles should be outlawed. If you want to go hunting thats fine, bring your single cartridge loading rifle or your bow and arrow or something. I imaging that won't go over very well with most of you.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
I carry my Bill of Rights card from the EFF in my wallet. :D
Thanks for the Info Ab, and everyone else. I probably won't be purchasing anything until next year anyways, but since I saw a few of you own arms - I thought I'd ask your opinions. Although purchasing one prior to the AK Lan party at Squidly's wouldn't be a bad idea. :tongue:
Just stating my opinion which I feel strongly about (which I believe is the purpose of this general forum), feel free to completely ignore me. By the way I am fully aware of what the second amendment says, and I am not against the right to bare all arms, just hand guns and fully automatic weapons.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Let's not turn this into a long drawn out political rant with hurt feelings on both sides of the fence. This post started out being about cool guns. Let's leave it at that.
You can have an opinion about opinions when we tell you you can have an opinion! "Rock the Vote!" Bribo to Squire status!! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Well, take your opinion and your annoyingly large sig file and stuff it.
Hey!! That's an opinion!! :uzi:Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
annoyingly large sig file and stuff it.
I think everyone should own a gun if they want, (of a type of their choosing.) I also feel rather strongly about this. I also feel rather negatively towards those who do not secure their arms when not in use and fail to adequately train their family members.
Although I don't want to drag this out any further politically, I feel compelled to say that I do not think enough gun owners equate gun ownership, posession, carrying, or use with practicing commesurate responsibility thereof.
Ever since I became of legal age to own a gun in this state, I learned, understood, and accepted not only the legal but the moral ramifications of my choices.
I took the time not only to learn the laws regarding the use of deadly force, but also asked myself every specific question I could think of regarding the moral use of such.
Although I no longer carry a firearm on a daily basis, I do carry one occasionally during the course of my job. If the unfortunate day ever comes when I have to use a firearm against another, it is best to be forearmed and forewarned with the proper legal and moral knowledge of its use.
If nothing else, it forces one to ask and answer questions of himself that he otherwise might have never imagined.
Like most things, lack of education and responsibility by parents are the root cause of problems that crop up. That seems to be the direction our society is heading, unfortunately.