New generation of cards?

Some of us were talking on Ventrilo last night about video cards and I was wondering about when the next generation was coming out. Somebody mentioned May.

I've been holding off on a new card for quite awhile now since I felt that the latest and greatest wouldn't be a quantum leap over my Ti4600.

So...

Who's coming out with what and how good are they supposed to be?

I'm thinking that around Xmas I'm going to also get a new processor and mobo with a quicker FSB. Then I'll be able to get back into 3DMark wars again. :cool:

April 13th for the NV40

from the speculative spec of the card sounds like it will eat Dx9 games for lunch compared to todays cards.

ATI's 420 should follow on its heals and be nearly as powerful a card


so far the differences ive seen:

NV40 = 16pipes!!!!! pixel shader 3.0 and vertex shader 3.0 support

ATI 420 = 12 pipes with no 3.0 support.

sounds like the ATI card will be slower but no guarantees. I love my current Nvidia card over the current ATI offerings personally so i tend to believe NV40 will prolly carry the same feel and more.

heres a tidbit on Nviidias next gen product i came across

{quote via Vegetto-eX}

Well it's time, some of this info in not new and it was speculated before, now is just confirmed.
The card that was running those games was an NV40 ( it was an A2 revision ) clocked at 475mhz Core and 1.2ghz memory ( gddr3 ) and 256mb. The card IT IS 16x1 as the fillrate shows it. With 3dmark2001 give results of 7010 Mpixels/s for single texturing and 7234 Mpixels/s for multi texturing ( pretty impressive don't? ).The PS performance is boosted a lot, at least 2.5x faster and even got to 5x faster.The AA used in the pics is RGMSAA at 4x, the maximum AF ( on this drivers, 56.55 ) was 8x but I think that we will see 16x. In most of the games the performance was 2.5x to 3x faster than my FX5950 using high resolution and AA as well as AF and well the IQ...... what can I say? is far far better. Now some things, they were a lot of problems, mostly corrupted textures, but not in any of the tested games, I'm 100% sure that at launch the drivers will pack a lot more of features just for the NV40. In other thing, I can't argue that indeed there is some blurring in those SS, but first think:

1) if you don't zoom the picture it looks just damn good.
2) there are no final drivers, so no final AA or AF levels.
3) I'm not saying is better than ati or anything like that, I just think is WAY better than any other Nvidia card.

and for a matter of speed, remember that A2 is no the final revision, so the final "could" be a little faster. Well that's all... at least all I can say now, there is something else but I risk too much and I have a promise, maybe later in this month, but I have said everything I know, hope you like it, and again excuse my bad english


heres the original thread.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=26293

I'm an ATI convert, but I think the NV40 is going to be an extremely solid card. The reason being the latest NVIDIA cards over the last year or so have basically had their lunch eaten for them by ATI after owning the market for quite awhile. NVIDIA "needs" a top of the line, pack leading card again to save face.

FYI, don't count on those ATI specs you listed as being the final card specs. ;)

I agree with your take. NVidia is getting the hype for now while ati is being hush hush.

I get the impression NV40 may have the grunt this go round while ATI's real punch may come in the form of the 423 not to long after nv40 comes out.

I wish one could take the speed of the ati and the quality of the Nvidia put it in a blender with a dash of digital vibrance and mmm the perferct card =)


ill tell yah to NVIdia's latest drivers besides being rock solid across the board have some of the kewlest features ever. couple examples: per game graphic settings (waay cool) and global refresh rate overides even cooler.

MSI has just released the Nvidia 5900XT. At $185 it looks like a hella card. Full review here.

With the next batch of cards hitting the market soon, these revamp of cards look to be nice for people looking to do a mid-level upgrade. I for one want to wait till late summer early fall before diving back into the 'big-bad-boy' card arena. For now I'm super happy with my ATI 9600XT. And that 5900XT does look really good too!

SOmeone snagged a NV40 and ran a few benchies! Holy smackers does it look to FLY!!



http://www.warp2search.net/modules.p...icle&sid=17224

I just bought the Chaintech Nvidia 5900XT card mentioned above. The reviews were very favorable and I'm an Nvidia bigot at heart. :D It should tide me over until the next generation of cards is out and prices on those cards begin to approach the reasonable level.

In any event it's faster than the PNY Ti4800 I'm currently running (and soon to be installing in my son's machine). Hoping to get a boost in games like 1942 and BF:V and see what FarCry looks like with a decent resolution and all the bells and whistles turned up.

Well aren't you the performance pimp? :angel:

If its new, I'm buying it! I have an 9800xt for over two months now, so I'm due for a new card soon. HMMMM ATI or Nvidia.... I wonder what Sarah (TRON) would say!

Cruiser, those benchmarks are fake. You should have read the article a little closer, especially toward the end. ;)

Bribo is the card in hand or ordered online??

LMAO, Palooka!

NV40 otherwise known as the Geforce 6800 series look to be a feature packed hardcore card. The ATI 420's look rockin as well, may end up being a bit faster! dont think itl be enough for me to not want to take Nvidia's monster for a spin tho! Having used both ATI and NVidia latest gen cards i prefer Nvidia's drivers, compat and Digital vibrance! :D

either or of next gen cards kickass, to me its all bout features with speed at a fair price. The competition tween the 2 has em both refining the hell out of ther products. Nvidia tends to be a bit more feature packed with bigger bundles, video in and out functions (vivo) and more future proof with support for 3.0 pixel shaders, 3.0 vertex shaders etc. ( more future proof this go round)


5900 plays Farcry just fine, 1024x768 with some aniso and med to high game details not to shabby. I believe the ATI cards play that title faster while BFV seems better suited for NVidia thus far. Im very pleased with the 5900, it rocks! The card ill be watchin for is the 6800 non ultra as itl start at 299, have 12pipes and should overclock like mad. Middle of may to end of may for all these badboys to hit. no need for one here yet but im sure interested!

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Originally posted by [AK]StitchJones
Bribo is the card in hand or ordered online??

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I NewEgged it.

Nvidia FarCry performance review, including the reference 6800 ultra. %900 does very well, specially with the 1.1 patch.

Just FYI i think Nvidia has an ace up ther sleeve this go round if needed. Im hearing tell of a whopping 600mhz version of this card DOH!


heres the far cry testing http://firingsquad.com/hardware/far_...dia/page10.asp

Digit life breaks down the 6800 http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/g...0-part1-a.html

New vid card installed. 3DMark 2003 score went from 1861 to 5097. BF:V looks pretty sweet now with everything turned up. Now to finally install Far Cry. :)

Radeon fires back.

http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=517&cid=2

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Originally posted by [AK]Bribo
Radeon fires back.

http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=517&cid=2

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Come back to the ATI side of the fence.

Come back? I never -ever- was on the Radeon side. :)

Pretty happy with Nvidia right now. Not compelled to hop the fence.

Okay then, I guess I'll just have to toss you over the fence. You'll see the error of your ways soon son. :)

Stitch.. he hasn't reached the age of enlightenment yet. :D

What I'm wondering is, are the game developers writing code yet that can even take advantage of what we already have?

It seems like whenever a new generation of cards comes out, it takes forever for games to appear that can use all the bells and whistles on the chipset and, by the time the games have caught up to the cards, there's a new generation of cards out.

Not that I'm complaining about fast cards...

Actually Devs are implimenting alot of New tech in current titles. The level of realism is getting great with these new effects! Seems they impliment these new shaders and lighting effects as the game engines develop now and by releasing patches to update to newer version of the effects.

I think Devs are stoked because of the level of realism just within ther grasp, much sooner than many wouldve thought to i might add.

2 of these cards really stand out to me, The Nvidia 6800GT being a 1 molex connector slower clocked 16pipe badboy and the x800 pro for its lower price point whilst overclocking nicely only bad part it has but 12 pipes.

Im very keen on getting me hands on a GT, may well hit a bargain pricepoint for clockers like me! surely will be at least a couple months but still very excited bout this card! Prolly try and hold out for the fall refresh of these new gens if i can to tho.


Heres a tasty morsel of comparison:http://www.nordichardware.com/review...index.php?ez=2

If your a fan definatly check out FiringSquads latest review for a good GT/Ultra/Extreme compared to ATI etc. The GT clocks well make me drool...

I think it's funny that the X800XT has a recommended power supply of 300w and the 6800 ultra is 480w. I think after looking at all the reviews I will be getting the X800XT.

I read yesterday that they are dropping the power requirements for the 6800.

Read this.

yeah, i believe in this case a recommended specification was takin as ammo for ATI fanboyz and used against Nvidia. Thers quite a few peeps that take this whole ATI/NV thing a bit to seriously around the web last few months ill tell yah.


As far as power req go, i read One reviewer ran one off of an 200 watt psu so i think it was simply a conservative recommendation from Nvidia. After seeing FiringSquad's GT with 1 molex connecter clock so well and other reviews with 350 watt psu's etc im not even concerned.

Im going Nvidia just because after trying both lasst gens i still like the refined feeling of NV hardware and drivers. NV cards seem alot more backward compatable as well. Its not like theres any real bad reasons not to go with either or tho, just matter of preference.

IN this round ATI has basically put out an r300 chip on steroids that has awesome performance and doesnt suck up power to bad at all. Job well done and If ATI is your thing this card looks to be awesome without a doubt.


Bribo after seeing the 5900 in action im sure your like me wondering how 2x and then some with even more features would be like! DROOL!!

x800 XT on order!!!