Islamobots in Russia

Speaking of subhuman terrorists ... anyone been following the hostage situation at that school in Russia? A bunch of creatures with explosive belts have 300 teachers and children imprisoned in the school. Needless to say, the media is refusing to say they are Islamic terrorists (just not PC, I suppose).

To the media they are "Chechen separatists," or "armed militants," or some other generic phrase. All they are in reality is another group of Islamonazis intent on setting up their own repressive regime in Chechnya.

Islam seems to be an increasingly virulent religion. Its members are never content to be PART of a country. They always want to rule the whole place, implement Shari'a law and slaughter the nonbelievers.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040902/D84R8SN80.html

Perhaps Russia will start showing a little more solidarity with the US in fighting terrorism world-wide after this.

I wonder if Putin will have the whole building gassed like a few years back.

Can we send the Jesse Jackson to negotiate?

Let's send Michael Moore instead.

I wonder if Moore will laud these Chechen "patriots" like he did the murderers in Fallujah.

I'm seeing a very unRussianlike softer approach this go around, they don't want the same problems they had in the theatre.

After just over a week of 2 downed planes, a subway explosion, and a school seized, I'd expect a heavy handed Russian response in the region. If this ends badly, then the Russians will have the support they need to crush the rebellion once and for all.

There are a large number of Russians (8 I think)in Windhund now, and I think they are starting to realize and feel what we have felt here in the US.

Will the theory of Rainbow Six become reality?

IMO, it's time to take the PC gloves off, and get down and dirty to show would be Islamorecruits that there is no future in this fight, and no hope in winning it. No Virgins for you!

mmm, slaughtering and virgins.. sounds like my kind of religion...... For me to poop on!

In all seriousness we should just erradicate all of them from the world.. including the french.. :tongue:

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Originally Posted by [AK]Abaddon

Islam seems to be an increasingly virulent religion.

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Historically, Islam is a religion based on domination of all infidels. When Islam first started conquering lands they saw it as a sign from God that they were on the holy path to righteousness. As they killed, tortured and enslaved Europe and Asia it continued to reaffirm their beliefs. For how could they possibly conquer the world if not without the blessing of Allah.

When they started losing their footing following the end of WWI and II it was a serious blow to their collective pyschie. How could God let the infidels beat them? How could we have been pushed out of so many countries?

There were three possible conclusions for the muslem to draw from the 20th century. 1. The infidels are, in fact, in league with Satan. Hence it was easy to blame your loss. You're enemies were backed by the forces of Hell itself. Hence, you commonly hear the U.S. and the west refered to in this fashion. 2. Lack of Faith. This results in a more hard-line approach. Stricter enforcement and the creation of new rules of control and life. With this you end up with the Taliban. 3. Indifference. Let's just ignore our prior success, and just try to overwhelm our enemies slowly without hostility. Some even try to adapt to the new world and live peacefully. You see this in Malasia and parts of Africa and even in the U.S. But in all cases Islam continues to be a religion in which the believers are told that they are the one true religion and to not impose Allah's will on others is a dishonor to yourself, your family, your nation's history and God himself. After that, it becomes a person CHOICE on whether to live with decency, respect of your fellow man, and a belief of equal treament towards others. For no relgion. No leader. No man can truely control the mind of another.

Nuts done did some fancy booklernin'

You got a way with words nuts, nice post

It certainly didn't end well....

400 casualties, 180 at least were children. 100 bodies on the gym floor.

Spetsnaz stormed the building, and the terrorists started blowing themselves up, shooting people who were fleeing.

One of the Windhund Russkies says that some parents got a hold of the Terrorists as they tried to escape. They beat him to death.


ITAR-TASS

I hate to say it, but negotiating with the splodeydopes would have resulted in more causlties in the long term.

I guess we all knew it wouldn't end well.

I can't imagine what the parents feel.

It certainly is a tragedy, but the responsibility for this rests solely on the terrorists shoulders. I'm glad the Russians play hardball and refuse to negotiate with murderers in this type of situation.

Every US citizen needs to pay attention here. This could be happening soon to your kids at their school if we don't continue the Bush doctrine on terrorism. Take the fight to them.

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Originally Posted by [AK]Bribo

It certainly is a tragedy, but the responsibility for this rests solely on the terrorists shoulders. I'm glad the Russians play hardball and refuse to negotiate with murderers in this type of situation.

Every US citizen needs to pay attention here. This could be happening soon to your kids at their school if we don't continue the Bush doctrine on terrorism. Take the fight to them.

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Amen to that. But I suppose the left believe that in a similar situation, John Kerry would just show up, give all the terrorists a big "group huggie" and they would let them all go. See, that would be a more "sensitive" war on terror.

This was a terrible tragedy with horrible losses, but remember many did survive as well and the government did not cave into the demands of the terrorists. God forbid this would have been France or perhaps Spain. The terrorists would now believe they could keep doing this to achieve their objectives through "negotiations" and threats of terror.

Looks like it was an unplanned assault. Some kids escaped and the animals inside started shooting at them. At that point, the military engaged them and the splodeydopes blew themselves up.

I don't think I could ever understand a creature who could do such a thing to innocent children. I just read an editorial in the Brit lefty paper ... Al-Guardian, which criticized Putin's human rights record in Chechnya and blamed that for the hostage situation.

There's only one thing to blame for the mass murder today - Islamic radicalism/separatism, and the animals who perpetuate it.

Maybe horrific incidents like this will bring the U.S. and Russia closer together on this issue. With enough of the civilized countries on board, we can squash more of these roaches before they breed and spread their disease.

I got this in an email a couple of months ago:

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman
Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their
belief systems.I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had
to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam,
complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for
questions and answersWhen it was my turn, I directed my question to the
Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that
most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war]
against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel,
which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven.
If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"There
was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he
replied, "Non-believers!"I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this
straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone
who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"The
__expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to
that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the
cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."I then stated, "Well, sir, I
have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all
Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering
Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"The Imam was
speechless.I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when
you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let
me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to
kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you
because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"You could
have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.



Original Senders words:
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the
Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs. I think
everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal
justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be
widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your email contacts.This
is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in
prison ministry.

I regret to say that I am very quickly becoming a racist.


I find myself looking at all Muslims different now.

I find myself noting that the Arabs sided with Hitler.

I find myself noting that only Muslims behave in those most dispicable ways...

I find a tiny little part of myself hoping for a nuclear holocaust that turns the middle east into a sea of glass.....and that really bothers my soul...

is this what "they" want me to feel?

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is this what "they" want me to feel?

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I think they just want you to die. they don't really care about your feelings, imo. they are truely evil people, that slaughter women, children, mothers, fathers, brothers, etc.... they are just daft in the head and as Ab stated, must be stopped from spreading their disease. I ask you this, what type of person could truely believe the actions of these radicals is sane?

I wonder if Kerry could find a way to get a Purple Heart while sitting in the Oval Office?

Chances are he could.. lets hope he never gets the chance to do so.

I'm not big on sweeping generalizations - no matter how many fit the profile.

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I'm not big on sweeping generalizations - no matter how many fit the profile.

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Thats why this bothers my soul so much Squid. All jokes and kidding and sarcastic remarks aside. These terrorists are hurting me in ways I've never thought about. When I see someone of Arabic decent on the street I feel anger. I don't want to...and I know it's not right...but I feel sincere anger. I want to stop them and yell at them and ask them what kind of horrible aborration their race is!! 100s of CHILDREN died violently because of their insanity!! I just want it to stop...and I realize how hypocritical it all is...my "sea of glass" comment would result in the deaths of millions, men, women and children...

I just so very badly want it to stop. I'm not a sensitive man. I'm not prone to tears...but I've felt their warm tracks down my cheeks a few times because of these people...9/11, the Spanish trains, the murders in Iraq, and now this. They sicken me Squid...and it's starting to change who I thought I was. It's making me have those "sweeping generalizations" even if I don't want them.

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I regret to say that I am very quickly becoming a racist.

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In all actuality, there are only three human races: Caucasian, Mongoloid, Negroid. Although most folks, including the media and politicians continue to use race describe ethnicity, it would still be incorrect to refer to Muslims or Arabs as a race as you can find Muslims on every continent. They are represented by people of all color and nationality. Although I too eye people of arabic decent with a closer look, I try hard not to pass judgement on all of them

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Originally Posted by [AK?]The Purchaser

I find myself looking at all Muslims different now.

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There's nothing wrong with that. Vigilance is okay. Personally I keep both eyes on Shaolin Monks. I just don't trust them.

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I find myself noting that the Arabs sided with Hitler.

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So did a multitude of other countries. The Roman Catholic church sat on the sidelines and tried to stay out of it. Do you hate all of them? Do you have a distrust of the Japanese today? Do you hate Argentinians? In fact, there was a quite popular Nazi party in America for many years leading up to WWII.

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Originally Posted by [AK?]The Purchaser

I find myself noting that only Muslims behave in those most dispicable ways...

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Only when looking at the world today. For in their histories, all people have acted in barbarism. The Inquisition. The Rape of Nanking. The Trail of Tears. Ethnic clensing in Ethopia. Stalin's purge of Motherland. Aztec ritual mass murders. These are examples of man's inhumanity towards his fellow man. And although we, as a nation, have developed beyond this type of action we have no right to expect the rest of the world to act as we do. That's what makes this country great. However because we live in such an idealic country and have so many opportunities we have developed a very pictureque view of the world and have a hard time comprehending the type of violence we see around us.


I'm just posting my counter-points. At times, I too think we could just wipe out Iraq. Let's face it. Name a single contribution made by Iraq in the past 100 years that has benefitted mankind. Would you really miss them? But that's not what this country is about. We must stand on higher ground and, like a patient big brother, teach the child-like nations of the world the way things can and perhaps should be.

Continue to make the sweeping generalizations and you begin down the path that the terrorists are on. Take a deep breath and realize that the guy with the turban pumping your gas is just as much of an infidel in the eyes of these slobs as you are.

And in a lot of cases, the guy with the turban is an Indian or a Sikh, too ... just as much an infidel to the Islamonazis as the rest of us.

I have to say this about Islam - it seems the people who "speak" for the religion right now are bloodthirsty fanatics, who resent the accomplishments of western civilization and are harboring a deep inferiority complex against the west. All the close-minded religious fanaticism they can summon up still won't put a man on the moon or keep their countries' power grids online.

Where are the Imams issuing fatwas against the Chechen murderers and the 9/11 murderers? They are nowhere to be found, because there is tacit (if not outright) approval in the Islamic religious community for these actions.

Here's a link to a planned celebration of the 9/11 attack in London. Let's just say the folks sponsoring it aren't Anglicans or Presbyterians.

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cg...=sd&ID=SP77804

And here's a look at what the Chechen rebels want to accomplish with the murder of schoolchildren -- pretty much the same thing Islamists murdering schoolchildren all over the world want to accomplish - a Muslim state.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._rebel_goals_1

What you guys are expressing here is a very natural reaction to evil. The evil that we are seeing in our world today is beyond what man himself can contain. This type of evil isn't done away with by incarceration, the bullet or a bomb. Though, we must use those methods to initially resist it. And it won't be done away with in a month, a year, or perhaps a generation. It can truly only be overcome by the spirit. The mindset of those people has got to change. They have to come to know our God.

We as Americans are very fortunate to live in the country that we live in, where "freedom" reigns supreme. Where the fabric of our country has been stitched together with the moral fibers of a loving God. A God who's word was studied and adhered to while the foundations of this country cured. Its no "wonder" how such a great nation could rise from such solid foundation.

The only way to defeat this evil is to share our God with them. His holy spirit will penetrate their darkness and permiate their lives with the true understanding of how to treat their fellow man.

War is surgical, carving out the infections and diseases plaguing the mindset of a demented country. Once the war is over healing will come to those who get to know God.

As a man, I feel the same way you do ... ... Its only God that keeps me from lashing out at them.

This is a start, at least.

I get a kick out of that one guy who blames it on the Israelis. Dork.

War

I thought I knew, at least on the surface, what was going on in Chechnya. Then I read THIS and expanded my horizons. I'm still looking for more on this history of the area.

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More, though limited, history can be found HERE

Keep in mind also that these are "terrorists" that the U.S. funded and supplied so that they could fight off communism...

Though it seems neither articles make light of that. I wrote a paper on this "war" in my senior year of high school and studied into it a ton, all signs at the time pointed to America funding the fight against communism.

I have no problem with Islam. But it seems wherever Islam goes radical Islam follows and political and religious leaders do nothing to quell it.

Well, on a bright note the Priests have said that its against Islam religion to kidnap people.. ;)