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    I can remember when we all had the same ring-tone on our phones...and well....it sounded like a phone!!

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked about this phone, and may well get it in August! (Verizon won't sell a contract in my county, AT&T sucks, which leaves Sprint as my only option).

    But none of the reviews for this phone are all that useful. They all talk about the amazing specifications, but none address things like actual usability. When the iPhone 3G came out, people made videos of dropping it in the parking lot, dropping it into their bowl of cerial with milk and then purposely fumbling so it'd have a little soak time, etc. With this phone, every review is white glove handling like it's the royal jewels.

    I wish just one of the dozens of reviews of this phone would break out of the "hey look how big this screen is!" review and actually talk more about the phone as an everyday use item. I'm not as interested in how awesome the phone is out of the box, as I am how awesome I think it is 12 months into owning it. Is it going to be a water soaked cracked brick with a back pannel that keeps falling off?

    how about:
    -Gee, this phone is really big, is it more prone to being dropped when I fish it out of my pocket or otherwise handle it?
    -Can I reach all the way accross the screen to one hand dial/navigate?
    -Boy that's a big screen, does it shatter more easily? Let's drop test it from various heights at various angles on different surfaces and see!
    -Will that screen crack if I have this in my pocket and bend over?
    -Yea! It now has a removable battery (which no one actually uses, but everyone's been whining about) and a removable memory card (Which you will have access regularly because it's 1/4 what an iPhone will be). How many times can I remove that back cover to swap out memory before it's seal is compromised or it stops reattaching as securily? Let's yank it off and put it back on 100 times and see!
    -Or how about - Since it has a removable back pannel, that's a lot of area that needs to be sealed against leaks - how water resistant is it? Let me drop it into some water and find out!

    Instead, they talk about how cool it is as a wirefi router, which you will have to pay an extra $30/MONTH to use (which = $700 over the life of the 2 yr contract), and only really useful if you live in one of the few cities with 4G anyway.

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    Lets pull out the crystal ball and see what it says

    -Gee, this phone is really big, is it more prone to being dropped when I fish it out of my pocket or otherwise handle it?

    Not unless you have been eating buttered popcorn

    -Can I reach all the way accross the screen to one hand dial/navigate?

    If you are a extra from the Wizard of Oz....No; If you can palm a basketball...certainly

    -Boy that's a big screen, does it shatter more easily? Let's drop test it from various heights at various angles on different surfaces and see!

    Possibly?!?........Dont drop your phone.....LOL

    -Will that screen crack if I have this in my pocket and bend over?

    If you put a touchscreen phone in your back pocket....it is probably close to your brain and might (JK) If it breaks in you front pants pocket when you bend over...your only kidding yourself and need to up the waist size a few inches....we can tell you need to loose weight

    -Yea! It now has a removable battery (which no one actually uses, but everyone's been whining about) and a removable memory card (Which you will have access regularly because it's 1/4 what an iPhone will be). How many times can I remove that back cover to swap out memory before it's seal is compromised or it stops reattaching as securily? Let's yank it off and put it back on 100 times and see!

    I see the number 23

    -Or how about - Since it has a removable back pannel, that's a lot of area that needs to be sealed against leaks - how water resistant is it? Let me drop it into some water and find out!

    Thats why God made caulk!!!


    Hope my insights into the misty world of cell phone reviews help out !!


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    It makes calls. Yay!


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    Techcrunch review of the HTC EVO:
    http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/

    Terrible battery life (even when not using 4G), a buggy and slow camera, and a poor keyboard. iPhone, Nexus One and Driod Incredible far better options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Bribo View Post
    Techcrunch review of the HTC EVO:
    http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/

    Terrible battery life (even when not using 4G), a buggy and slow camera, and a poor keyboard. iPhone, Nexus One and Driod Incredible far better options.
    Finally, a review not by an iPhone hater. Though, iPhone fanboys have their bias' too...

    Batt life issue is nothing new. iPhone can't make it through a day in the office w/out recharging since day one. Sounds like the EVO is much worse, which is amazing to me. I wonder if this will be improved by Android 2.2.

    First I've heard about camera and keyboard. Interesting; most reviews say they are pretty good. Especially the keyboard since the bigger screen meant bigger keys.

    I handled an Incridibly this weekend and didn't care for the narrow screen.

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    I'm not an iPhone hater.....just to cheap to pay for one...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Clay View Post

    Batt life issue is nothing new. iPhone can't make it through a day in the office w/out recharging since day one. Sounds like the EVO is much worse, which is amazing to me. I wonder if this will be improved by Android 2.2.
    I'm not sure this is an Android issue. I have Android 1.6 on a G1 and my battery easily lasts all day. If I don't play games on it or web surf all day, I won't even have to recharge it at night. However, I do keep the GPS turned off unless I need it. So far, I've been able to navigate to and from work just fine without it.

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    I still haven't had any luck getting my hands on en EVO to play with for an extended period of time, but I spent alot of time with the Incredible this past weekend. It's a GREAT phone. With that being said, I won't be upgrading my Droid for it. I could get the Incredible for $149, but don't want to use my "upgrade" for it. If I were buying an Android phone right now, I'd buy the Incredible hands down. But if you own a Droid, I would wait for 2.2 to be released for the speed up and all the other benefits. Then just wait another month or two for the Droid 2 (Shadow, Exceptional, or whatever the naming mechanism ends up being).

    I'm neutral about the HTC Sense and other overlays, as long as they are done well. HTC has done a really nice job with Sense. However, I tend to like the "Vanilla" droid interface myself - but it wouldn't stop me from getting an Incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Hylander View Post
    If I were buying an Android phone right now, I'd buy the Incredible hands down.
    Which, alas, is limited to Verizon, which is not available to me If I had the choice, I'd look pretty close at the iPhone 4 on Verizon. Don't have the choice.

    Don't you find the Incredible screen to be narrow? I just didn't care for it, I prefer the wider screen on my iPhone. But then, I only handled an incredible for maybe 30 seconds, so maybe I judged too quick.


    Back to the EVO's battery life, the reviews make for interesting read. For benchmark: my iPhone3G battery is terrible. I can't go through an 8 hour day without having to recharge - and I don't even run it in 3G mode. I've gotten used to it - it's not hard to plug it into my charger in my car, office, home while I'm sitting there. I don't complain too much - I use my iPhone as a mini-laptop, so yea, it's going to suck power. Batt life is reasonable when I'm basically using it either as an off-line movie player (i.e. in an airplane), online when I'm using it only as a phone in idle mode, and when I use it to play music. But if I browse any or use the GPS (which still sucks power, even though the GPS doesn't actually work anymore), then it's drained pretty quick.

    The EVO battery life for me (no 4G) sounds to be at least on par with what my iPhone is delivering, and actually a little bit better from what I'm reading. According to the USA Today review, the EVO and iPhone both lasted as long. And you DO have the option of buying a spare battery with a non-iPhone.

    I also note that reviewers vary widely on how long the battery actually lasts. One of the biggest factor is how good the signal is. The phone in 3G mode with good signal lasts pretty long. But if weak or roaming, it sucks the juice trying to boost transmission power and constantly searching. Makes sense. Maybe that's why my iPhone batt life blows too.

    Here are the specs on batteries:
    iPhone 3G = 1150 mAh
    iPhone 3GS - 1200 mAh
    iPhone 4 = 1.25X (3GS) = 1500 mAh (based on Gizmodo)
    Sprint EVO = 1500 mAh
    Droid = 1400 mAh
    HTC Incredible = 1300 mAH, (upgraded to 1500 mAh - same battery used in the EVO).

    So the EVO's battery is quite good. But it still sounds like the Incredible outlasts it. That's where it gets confusing, because all reviews say it's not EVO's bigger screen that's drawing the power, it's the internals. It has the same processors as the Incredible, but interestingly, the Incredibles is underclocked )to <80% speed) to save on battery power. http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Late...e-a_10181.html After the creepy-crawly speeds of my iPhone 3G, I'll take the faster speed over longer battery.


    One of the complaints about Apple is it is closed source and you have limited control. With Android, do I have enough control that I can manually adjust the processor clock speed on the fly? Can I adjust how hard it fights to maintain cell tower signal?

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