OK--here's another consideration: what do I lose with a 3rd-gen Touch vs. a new 4th-gen Touch, besides Face Time? I know the older ones are a bit bigger, but that's not a concern for me--it'll be the same size (or smaller) as my old clunky PDA. As long as it can do e-mail/calendar, browse the web, and run some kind of e-book reader, that's all I need, and the older ones are now about half the price of the new ones, and with more storage space.