Goodies from E3

[[AK]Bribo]

Thief 3:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/402/402678p1.html

EverQuest2: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/everq...w_6027979.html

SW Knights of the Old Republic:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...w_6028079.html

Call of Cthulhu:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/402/402672p1.html

HL2:
http://www.gamerspulse.com/modules.p...content&id=146

BluesNews has a ton of other E3 games links.

[[AK]Palooka]

Check out this 25 minute Half-Life 2 demo. It's guaranteed to knock your socks off; this game is destined to make all other games, past and present, appear relatively archaic.

[[AK]Squidly]

*cough* Doom 3 *cough*

[[AK]Abaddon]

Damn! That HL2 video looks awesome. Any word on system requirements to run that beast? Looking at it, I question whether my system could handle it.

[[AK]Palooka]

Doom 3 won't hold a candle to HL2; just compare the E3 trailers. Doom 3 will be a continuation of the old-style shoot, don't think FPS. It won't have multiplayer support or the massive mod community that HL2 is guaranteed to have. No multiplayer + little to no mods = gathering dust on the shelf in no time. Great multiplayer + tons of mod potential = 5-year lifespan (like the original Half-Life).

[[AK]Gunny Highway]

Well put Pal.

[[AK]Squidly]

Doom 3 looks head and shoulders better graphically. It's not even close, IMO.

"Don't think FPS"? Doom 3 IS a FPS.

Now if you want to talk plot and scripting, then yeah, Half-Life 2 figures to be far
superior.

Just how great HL2's multiplayer will be remains to be seen. I don't think you can take anything from the success of HL1 in that regard.

[[AK]Palooka]

I am fully aware that Doom 3 is a FPS, and it will undoubtedly be a shallow shoot-'em-up like its forefathers (hence, "shoot, don't think").

I have seen screenshots and videos of both games, and Half-Life 2's Source Engine appears to be superior by and large.

How can we NOT take any of the original Half-Life's success into account when predicting the success of Half-Life 2 (in the multiplayer department, especially)? How many games can you name that are still going strong online after five years? Valve did it right the first time, so I don't know why they'd blow it the next time around.

[[AK]Squidly]

You say "mindless shooter" like it's a bad thing.

From the screenshots and video I've seen, Doom 3 looks much better.
Your mileage evidently varies.

Half-Life's success has no bearing on this game. Unreal was a fun game. Unreal 2 was pretty, but it sucked. Half-life's mutliplayer was broken out of the box. Who knows how well HL2 will do with the mod community? HL was easy to work with. HL2 is a big question mark until it hits the street.

And Id's games have a ton of staying power. HL was embraced by the mod community. Id *created* the mod community.

Finally, many dozens of games have been built from id-licensed engines. Longevity is where you look for it.

So yeah, HL2 seems to make past and present games look archaic, but I don't expect it to be alone on top of the hill graphically.

[Slaughter]

Sierra did it right with Tribes.. they borked it badly with Tribes 2..

[[AK]Palooka]

For a game that was supposedly so bad, we sure did play a lot of Tribes 2. I liked it.

[[AK]The Beast]

I agree with Palooka on this one. I'm a big fan of both Tribes games, and I can't wait for Tribes: Vengeance. What ever happened to Tribes: Fast Attack (or whatever its working title was)? Was it scrapped when Dynamix went belly-up?

[[AK]Squidly]

I loved T2...

[[AK]Jackle]

T2 was great. I think Fast Attack eventually got crammed into the Classic mod for T2. I always preferred the "don't think, just shoot" FPS's over the tactical ones. I hated CS, DoD and all the other HL mods. I played through the single player HL and then put it on the shelf, never to be played again. I do however, still play in Quake 3/UT LAN fragfests. Needless to say, I am looking forward to Doom 3 much more than HL2.

[Slaughter]

Fast Attack is the PS2 version of the game, if I remember correctly..

I played T2 a lot when it came out, but I remember not enjoying it at all and grumbling a lot.