"Beavis & Butthead" Realy Did Make it to Capitial Hill.

[Toolert]

[[AK]Squidly]

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You're right, the education system is failing our youth.

Welcome to the forum, consider yourself introduced.

[[AK]Nuts]

As a parent I do not want the US government telling me how to develop my children into young adults SO THET'S GET THAT STRIAGHT RIGHT NOW!!!!

Now what I am apposed to is the now installed government which has been here since 2000 (AKA: the Bush Administration) continually reducing funds for after school programs, parenting classes for parents with troubled children and for troubled parents themselves ect.

It is a shame that the US government doesn’t come to the conclusion that if they don't increase funding to all 50 states for the programs to save a generation and not ignore the fact of the increased crime among...(another topic just popped up; sorry for getting of topic) our youth of to day and if this continues generations to come!

First off welcome to the AK Forums. Our Political Forum is usually heated but we all learn to be understanding and listen to other points of view. That being said:

It's funny how you "do not want the US government telling me how to develop my children" yet you want government funding for just such an activity.

And clearly money is not the issue. Since the 40's and the birth of the welfare state and cradle to grave government, time after time money has been the democrats solution to all social ills. We spend more now (in adjusted dollars) on education, child welfare, child medical programs, after school programs, etc than in anytime in history. Perhaps, just maybe, money is not the answer. In fact I propose that money is the problem. By taking away all responsibility (financial and moral) from the parents government has done nothing more than make a society of victims. 'My child is bad because the government doesn't offer midnight basketball.'

Personal accountability, involvement in community, school and church. Strong family ties. Mother's and Fathers staying together and raising children. These are the things that result in a well-balanced and emotionally stable child. No government hand out will ever replace these.

And in regards to the U.S. Government being involved in any of these programs... that concept is wrong. I firmly believe in a Constitutional government. A Republic. The programs you listed should be the responsibility of individual states and not the federal government. Money is wasted in the bureaucracy and as Ronal Reagan said, the purpose of a bureaucracy is to sustain the bureaucracy.

[[AK]Hylander]

First off welcome to the AK Forums. Our Political Forum is usually heated but we all learn to be understanding and listen to other points of view. That being said:

It's funny how you "do not want the US government telling me how to develop my children" yet you want government funding for just such an activity.

And clearly money is not the issue. Since the 40's and the birth of the welfare state and cradle to grave government, time after time money has been the democrats solution to all social ills. We spend more now (in adjusted dollars) on education, child welfare, child medical programs, after school programs, etc than in anytime in history. Perhaps, just maybe, money is not the answer. In fact I propose that money is the problem. By taking away all responsibility (financial and moral) from the parents government has done nothing more than make a society of victims. 'My child is bad because the government doesn't offer midnight basketball.'

Personal accountability, involvement in community, school and church. Strong family ties. Mother's and Fathers staying together and raising children. These are the things that result in a well-balanced and emotionally stable child. No government hand out will ever replace these.

And in regards to the U.S. Government being involved in any of these programs... that concept is wrong. I firmly believe in a Constitutional government. A Republic. The programs you listed should be the responsibility of individual states and not the federal government. Money is wasted in the bureaucracy and as Ronal Reagan said, the purpose of a bureaucracy is to sustain the bureaucracy.

You brought a tear to my eye man...

[[AK]Devil_Dog]

It's like them Banker IT guys, they dig in deeper then an Alabama Tick, and you can never get them out of your system....

[[AK]Choozoo]

Nuts speaks the truth. The long lost ideal of "accountability" has gone away. Being married to a primary school teacher, you have no idea how often it's the school's fault, the teacher's fault, community, student body, diversity, or lack thereof (please place your scapegoat here). Two items are never to blame, the student, or their parent.

Great post nuts.

[[AK]Gunny Highway]

I couldn't agree with you guys more, people tend to occupy their kids time with video games or plop them in front of the tv, or enroll them in after school programs (whether the kids want to or not) just so they dont have to watch them. Lack of parental involvement is to blame most of the time. Granted not every problem child can be blamed on bad parenting or lack of parenting but all too often that is where it starts. In the case given the parents should have taught their child not to do things they see on tv. I on the other hand would never let my 8 year old watch Beavis and Butthead. My kids are younger than that now but they won't be watching re-runs of it either, especially not at 8 years old.

[[AK]Hylander]

people tend to occupy their kids time with video games or plop them in front of the tv,

YEAH! Gunny reserves those rights for himself!

[[AK]Abaddon]

Nuts really said it all. I'd have to say the main problem today is that too many stupid irresponsible people are having kids.

It's not society's job to raise children. It's not the school's job. It's the parents' job. And if they aren't up to the challenge they need to hold back before going down that path. I don't particularly enjoy paying $3200 in property taxes each year to support schools that I do not utilize. But paying taxes for the rest of the folderol listed in that first post is even worse.

[Toolert]

[[AK]Hylander]

I don't particularly enjoy paying $3200 in property taxes each year to support schools that I do not utilize.

Hey.. I'm in that boat too! Not to mention the local school board just voted AGAINST property tax relief through funding provided by slot machines because it was 'immoral'. Now, I think the legislation that passed was pretty lame, and I would probably end up paying more in the long run through increased local income tax than what I pay on property tax.. but to use the "immoral" clause as reasoning is just absurd. The real reason is that they would have to meet educational standards and lose control of how they spend "their" money and budgets... God forbid!

It's "immoral" to accept money from gambling but it's perfectly ok to teach a kid how to put a condom on a banana, teach them that Adam & Steve getting married and adopting is normal, and the ever present "everyone is a winner" crap? If you want your kid to grow up a wussy, move to France!

What we need to be doing is sitting some of these kids down in the auditorium and make them watch real documentaries on WWII, the invasion of normandy, and then let them try and explain to you how it's "unfair" that they can't have both an X-Box and a PS2 or have a cellphone, PC, and TV in their bedroom. And then if they still don't understand and are crying/whining.. do what Patton did to the crying soldier!

[[AK]Camelwalk]

Welcome to the forums...........

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[[AK]Abaddon]

Oh yah, and welcome, Toolert! :-)

[[AK]Squidly]

This is all more excitement than I am authorized to handle.