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    So, should Scooter Libby be pardoned?

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    Why not... committing perjury was no big deal for the President of the United States (Clinton), so why should it be a big deal now?
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    What does Bush have to loose by pardoning Libby? It seems to me that he owes it to the man. The real question is why has the CIA gotten completely away with sending a partisan democratic hack on a sensitive mission to Africa. Heads should have rolled at the CIA in what was clearly an effort to sabotage the White House. Last time I checked the CIA still falls under the National Executive Authority.
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    I think Bush should wait until after the election. That's typically when President's issue a lot of pardons to friends, cohorts and political allies.
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    Libby's "taking one for the team"... I think a pardon is forthcoming, probably on Bribo's timetable.

    As to whether or not he should be...I confess to not paying much attention to the particulars these days.
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    Here's a list of Clinton's pardons:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

    Dang - that's a long list.
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    2 wrongs don't make a right. I'm going to try to remember to avoid the easy "hypocrisy" out that's so popular these days in political discussion.

    If Clinton made 10,000 bad pardons, it doesn't absolve Bush of 1 that he might make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Bribo View Post
    Here's a list of Clinton's pardons:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

    Dang - that's a long list.
    That's not a complete list... Rick Hendrick (The NASCAR team owner - A Republican BTW) - isn't on the list.

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    • Hendrick, owner of a major car dealership and NASCAR team owner, was convicted for mail fraud in 1997.
    • Hendrick was on the Board of Directors of NationsBank.
    • Hendrick's friend Hugh McColl was the chairman of NationsBank at that time.
    • NationsBank merged with Bank of America
    • Hugh McColl became chairman and CEO of Bank of America
    • Rick Hendrick requested a pardon from Bill Clinton
    • Bank of America chairman Hugh McColl wrote a letter to Bill Clinton recommending a pardon for Rick Hendrick
    • On December 7, 2000, Hugh McColl announced that Bank of America would donate $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation
    • On December 21, 2000, Bill Clinton granted a pardon to Rick Hendrick.


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    Rick Hendrick was the biggest dealer influence-peddler to play ball with Billmyer and Cardiges. His relationship with Billmyer went back to Rick's youth as a hot rodder. Billmyer helped Hendrick establish himself in the car sales business and was instrumental in getting him a dealership. Lynch shows how Hendrick wielded undue influence with American Honda and was thus able to acquire more car stores than anyone else. "All it took," Lynch writes, "were a few gifts."

    Most car companies limit dealers to about six store. Rick Hendrick, though, didn't believe such a rule should apply to him, and in Honda he found a company that officially did not have such a limit. He nonetheless took no chances; Lynch notes that Hendrick store holdings were frequently in the name of others, notably his brother John Hendrick, and less than $1 million of the bribes Rick paid have ever been recovered.

    Lynch shows how Hendrick used bribes and influence-peddling to bankrupt rival Honda dealers and poach their stores. William Van Dalsam of Corono, CA, was one. Dick Young of South Carolina was another. These two cases were directly witnessed by Lynch; there were many other such cases not mentioned in the book because they were not directly witnessed by him. According to Rodger Knupp of Asheville, NC, one such involved former NASCAR driver Dick Brooks; after rebuffing a Hendrick offer to buy his stores, he found cars slated for his stores winding up at Hendrick stores.
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    Here's a graph of Presidential pardons up to 2001.

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    Libs just got their panties in a bunch because they wanted the whole Valerie Plame thing to land on Dick Cheney's lap... and it didn't. So they got a small piece of Libby's ass and they are riding it like a virgin at a prison rodeo. Big deal, he dodged a few questions. The President has the authority and he used it. I don't see any huge threat to society being released back upon the innocent youths of America. This isn't an issue at all. It's just whinny ass liberals not getting enough blood.

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    Too bad he didn't get a blow job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Sonic Boom View Post
    Too bad he didn't get a blow job.
    It's funny how the liberals use the degradation of the reason behind committing perjury to negate their own hypocrisy on these types of issues.

    It's no different than their outcry on the commute of his sentence. For Christ's sake... Clinton commuted or pardoned everyone short of Hitler and satan during his presidency, particularly on his last day. And I'm sure if they had come up with a big enough contribution to his pet projects and organizations he would have given them one as well... and probably thrown in a get into Lincoln's bedroom free card or perhaps a CD with nuclear technology secrets on it. That's if they don't mind getting into Sandy Berger's pants to find it. However that will cost extra for that privilege.


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    Quote Originally Posted by [AK]Sonic Boom View Post
    Too bad he didn't get a blow job.
    The left was all excited about the Plame thing. It was their BIG CHANCE TO TAKE DOWN CHIMPY MCHITLERBURTON!!!!1111oneoneone.

    When that didn't materialize, they grudgingly settled for Scooter. A borderline skapegoat nabbed on a technicality.

    Now Bush has taken that away and everyone is all making sad faces.

    He should've pardoned him IMO. That would've really been funny.
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