The official release of the iPhone 4

[[AK]Clay]

Not sure if I totally agree with you on that Hylander - you do kinda come across as a hater!

I think the new iPhone looks pretty cool. From all reviews, if you want the best today, it's really down to the EVO vs iPhone. The Incredible looks pretty good too, but most reviews and specs put the EVO pretty far ahead of the Incredible. As I see it - between the iPhone 4 and the EVO, it comes down to style as much as anything. The iPhone 4 is appealing to the user who wants a small package that's just easy to use - but still does damn near everything. An appealing combination.

The EVO looks to appeal to more of a power user who wants power and flexibility (with the biggest screen you can find). An appealing combination.

I don't think either is a bad choice. I think for a non-power user who doesn't like to tinker, the EVO will be a difficult experience.

Here's what I don't like about the iPhone - and do about the EVO:
-iPhone still on AT&T. That's a big one. AT&T drops calls a lot and has terrible coverage in my area. That's a big deal. Hopefully the new iPhone antennae design will improve that - we'll see.

-iPhone has a small screen. Not really a total negative, it's part of it being a smaller package. But there's still a lot of unilluminated surface on the phone.

-Video chat - requires the other user to have an iPhone 4 too?? Useless to me then. Only works on wifi? (which makes sense I suppose being on AT&T - I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I mean it).

-iTunes. It just never sits right with me that there is one and only one program that can interface with my phone. I have always preferred a more manual interface. And I always preferred the winamp music player interface, especially with the ability to enqueue music on the fly.

-The sealed battery and memory are a non-issue. I never swap batteries on the fly, and you buy a phone with enough memory that it doesn't matter. That, and by doing it this way, the unit is better sealed against the elements. So I actually prefer Apples philosophy on this.

-iAds. I'm having a hard time getting excited as an end user over a better way for me to be spammed.

-Turn-by-Turn directions: The evo comes basically with a built in turn-by-turn voice Garmin. The iPhone does not.

-The iPhone battery life sounds a lot better. But I think a lot of the EVO complaints come from the fact that it's easy to leave applications running in the background and not know it. I was on the bus with a guy with a shiny new EVO on Sunday, and he said the Battery life was TERRIBLE. So I asked to look at it, and saw he had about 20 apps running in the background, including his GPS. Leave that GPS on, and yea, your battery is going to die. We'll see, even with that, it sounds like the iPhone is going to last a lot longer than an EVO, which certainly has value.


Will I buy an iPhone 4: I think I'd be a very happy user if I did - it's fast, it's small, it works great, it's easy. The new retina screen sounds spiffy - though I get the feeling it's like comparing a 32" 1080P to a 50" 720P TV when comparing it to the EVO. If AT&T were reliable in my area, I quite probably would buy the iPhone 4. But AT&T has been a massive letdown, and that alone is cause enough for me to switch. Every review of EVO indicates that it's as good as the new iPhone, and in a lot of ways, actually better.

[Slaughter]

On its website Monday, Cisco revealed that it has agreed to license the use of the iOS name to Apple for its mobile operating system on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. Cisco owns the trademark for IOS, its core operating system used for nearly two decades.

"The license is for use of the trademark only and not for any technology," Cisco noted.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...on_iphone.html

[[AK]Hylander]

Not sure if I totally agree with you on that Hylander - you do kinda come across as a hater!

I never attempted to hide my feelings regarding the items I take issue with.

[[AK]Bribo]

I never attempted to hide my feelings regarding the items I take issue with.

That's fine but you come across as a hater just for the sake of hating most of the time. Like it's some badge of honor. What I'm interested in a tech website is unbiased analysis - good or bad - of a product. Not feeling that from your site so probably won't bother to visit regularly.

On the plus side you probably quadrupled your hit count by posting your link here in this forum.

[[AK]Hylander]

That's fine but you come across as a hater just for the sake of hating most of the time.

Actually, I provide reasons - but as a Fanboy, you just don't like them.

Not feeling that from your site so probably won't bother to visit regularly.

On the plus side you probably quadrupled your hit count by posting your link here in this forum.

That's your prerogative, and after only being 'on the air' with this site for a month, I'm quite happy with my unique visitor numbers, but thanks for caring.

[[AK]Squidly]

Actually, I provide reasons - but as a Fanboy, you just don't like them.

Yes, he does't like the reasons you posted as they are overly colored by your stance as a Droid Fanboy.

That's your prerogative, and after only being 'on the air' with this site for a month, I'm quite happy with my unique visitor nubmers, but thanks for caring.

Bribo was referring to unique visitors, not Eunuch visitors.

[[AK]Gunny Highway]

Truth hurts, most apple/mac people don't like if it doesn't basically say it's the greatest thing ever when an apple product is reviewed. They do make some really good products but your not allowed to talk about any of the negatives

[[AK]Bribo]

Truth hurts, most apple/mac people don't like if it doesn't basically say it's the greatest thing ever when an apple product is reviewed. They do make some really good products but your not allowed to talk about any of the negatives

I'm the first to point out the negatives and I LIKE Apple products. I don't have an iPhone because it runs on the AT&T network. Would I buy one if Verizon offered it on their network? You betcha.

I know it's fun to taunt the fanboys and that's fine on a forum or via FB but if your going to publish a tech site and expect to be taken seriously then you should start tempering that taunting with some real analysis and not just snarky comments.

I'm still waiting for Scott to start.

[[AK]Squidly]

They do make some really good products but your not allowed to talk about any of the negatives

Sure you are allowed. I could just as easily say "Apple customers aren't allowed to respond to criticism of the products that they use." That would be similarly false.

Anyway, the whole process is pointless and ultimately tiresome. I apologize for the shot. Sorry Scott.

Moving on.

[[AK]Bribo]

Anyway, the whole process is pointless and ultimately tiresome. I apologize for the shot. Sorry Scott.

Moving on.

Likewise and me too.